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= Instructions =
* '''Delete these instructions section before posting completed minutes.'''
* Pick a moderator and a note-taker.
* Optionally: pick a membership-binder-wrangler; otherwise the moderator can take care of it.
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take notes on the major points of the meeting, using this page at the template.
* Project the draft meeting notes and agenda in real time throughout the meeting.
* Edit the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.
* Post the meeting notes to this page, and email out a summary with a link.
* Tell treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members.
== Moderator==
* Understand the structure of Noisebridge [[consensus|decision-making]]
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak.
* Speak only minimally yourself.
* Keep the meeting moving, and avoid getting bogged down.
* Identify discussion items, arrange times limits for talking about each item.
* Identify and summarize consensus, suggest things that need to be done.
* '''Get the [[membership binder]] and ensure that it is returned safely.'''
== Participants ==
* Say your name before you talk.
* Remain on-topic, and speak as concisely as possible.
* Assist the note-taker with any links or corrections that are needed.
* Remain respectful of other participants, their time, and the consensus and moderation process.
= Agenda =
= Agenda =
[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 224th Meeting of Noisebridge]
[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 224th Meeting of Noisebridge]
 
Note-taker: Zeph the Hacking Homosapien
Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE
Moderator: Tom (No fancy business... yet; any objections to Tom moderating? no.)
 
Moderator: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE
   
   
== Introduction and Names ==
== Introduction and Names ==
 
https://hackpad.com/JgPeBJKEx6Y - Go here if you're cool enough.
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to explain''' [[Noisebridge_Vision|what Noisebridge is about]]:
Noisebridge is about being excellent.
<blockquote>Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."</blockquote>
Who's here?
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to give '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.
*Tom, he's had two beers and is in a perfect place to moderate.
* Introduce any new or unusual moderation techniques that you may be using during the meeting like: direct responses, limited speaking time, orderless stack, &c.
*Jehan, Always entertained
* Round of introductions (remember, announcements come later):
*Randall, Not sleeping.
** What's your name,  
*Carlos, Used to be ROADIE FOR FUCKING WU TANG CLAN. Pays his taxes
** are you a member,
*Za, Just another heckler
** what do you do, and
*Zephyrs here and he's mad and he's not going to take it anymore!
** if you are new: how did you hear about Noisebridge?
*Carl is here and jamming, in a good mood.
 
*Crutcher, Regrets nothing.
*Liz, I do stuff and mess around with computers and is a writer.
*Mike, he doesn't do alot here.  Every once in a while, just stuff.
*Snail, "what is up?"
*Daniella, French teacher here and does all sorts of things.
*Allan M. Trujillo, It's not his first time here. (via fakenamegenerator.com)
*Mitch Altman, also not his first time here. (Perhaps not really mitch altman?)
*Fake Jake Applebaum. He's invisible.
*Eric, he's chillin.
== Short Announcements ==
== Short Announcements ==
* Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short!
Tom declares there to be a short announcement: "I've got boxes with computer parts, so, uhh, heckle me about that."
* Any happenings at the space of which members should be made aware.


== New or Stale Events ==
== New or Stale Events ==
* Is there anything new happening at the space?
Tom is a slacker so he's not even going to try.
* Is there anything that has stopped happening at the space?
Daniella says French classes are going to change. It's going to be the same time this week, but after this week she will change it to wednesday because of work. She's open to suggestions on a new time.
* If this is the first meeting of the month, review all the [[Category:Events | events at the space]] and try to weed out stale events.
Trujillo declares Go sundays to be on like donkey kong.
BTC IS WORTH MORE THAN 7 USD!!!!!!!
THIS IS REAL PEOPLE. CALL YOUR PARENTS, BUY NOW!
DRUGS ON THE INTERNET ARE WORTH MORE THAN EVER!
Beeeercoin!
== [[Membership Binder]] ==
Jake was made a member last week so deal with it.
Nick Owens aka Mischief. Is a cool guy and isn't afraid of anything. He likes too many things to recite them on paper. Is his 2nd week of being read.
Nike (Tearzak?) - 4th week being blocked but nobody liked him anyway (I guess?).
Adam Cozette - No sponsors, basically dead to us.
Tom wants to be proxied. Thats what it says.
Tom voices his opinion on the 4-week-filibuster (against, of course).
Tom wants people to interact, Carl poses conterfactual. Tom decides he doesn't care.
Snail wants us to not start checking boxes until there are signatures. The power of process declares this not legit.
Tom and J-Z engage in exegesis on the law of Noisebridge.
Ryan got blocked, Daniella "gives a no". Tom says something and so does Lief. Lives in Oakland.
Liz wants to know why we care about these old and dilapidated member entries.
Tom thinks we should have a good process thats smooth and otherwise preferable.
Tom says something about scrutinizing members.
Liz points out that showing up to a meeting is basically a roll of the dice.
Tom states that if nobody knows who someone is then we should be blocking them.
Liz and Crutcher are obstreporously (This word is not certified as "legit" by Zephyr) questioning why Tom is blocking by proxy for a really unlikely edge case for just in case someone's name is read 4 times at a meeting without 2 sponsors and no one knows who they are and then they show up the following week and suddenly become a member. In that case, Tom blocks every time.
I don't want to consense on this planet anymore.
== Financial Report ==


== [[Membership Binder]] ==
Noisebridge has recently signed a multimillion dollar Movie deal to produce a new summer blockbuster "Step Up Revolution: Hackers in Heat"
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe''' [[membership]], and the application process.
 
<blockquote>Being a member of Noisebridge is not like being a member of a gym or your local chess club. Anyone can come to Noisebridge to hack and learn: you don't need to be a member for that. At Noisebridge, membership is something different: it means taking responsibility and committing to help to maintain, improve, and govern Noisebridge. As a member of Noisebridge, you don't just come here to hack and learn, you actively work to improve what you see around you, help to deal with problems, and make this community better than it is today.</blockquote>
Our financial situation surely doesn't matter after our rise to fame in Hollywood.
<blockquote>If you want to show your commitment to Noisebridge and the community here without becoming a capital-M-Member, consider being a Noisebridge associate. Associates pay their dues to the treasurer just like members, use the space just like members, and are valued participants in the community just like members. The difference is that associate membership doesn't involve consensus: there's no need to go through consensus to become an associate, but associates don't get to block consensus either.</blockquote>
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Write a check on every open application.
* Anyone eligible to join this week should
** introduce themselves,
** answer any questions members may have for them, then
** leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime, or cookies) for the rest of the group.
* The rest of the meeting should reach consensus on whether they may join.
* Remember to applaud new members when they return.


== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: 16448.53 after rent.
* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
   
*There are $1759.82 earmarked NoiseTor funds     
*Colo service has been paid through Jul  7, 2012
*There are enough funds to pay for an additional 2 months of colo
*This information was updated at Tue Jul 10 20:30:06 2012     


== Consensus items ==
== Consensus items ==
You may wish to '''invite a knowledgeable volunteer to repeat '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on the consensus process]].
Grant thing needs to be sorted out for real at next week's showdown meeting.
 
We must email Danny, Liz is not his secretary.  He is our secretary.
Kelly proposes that we should hire someone to bookkeep for us. Perhaps we could craft a loving robot to do our books. Kelly exposes her anti-bot point of view. Lief tries to defend robot kind. Kelly stoops so low as to call it "a stupid fucking robot", silly meat-being.
Ben wants to know why our books are whack.
Crutcher declares robocracy inadequate and we need to find out how much money things cost.
Books should be open source?
Sanitization of books important! Because some members would not want their wallet names public.
Kelly will move forward with hiring a bookkeeper, lets get real here, society isn't ready for robot CPAs.
Lief states that his opposition to the grant would partially be solved if it was a less ambiguous grant.
Kelly changes her stance on robot-kind after heartfelt discussion on the real motives of our robot friends.
Shiny paper distracts us again.
Martin wants us to do something about the mice. The mice threat has grown bolder. They're growing and networking and becoming a sentient entity perhaps capable of spying on Noisebridge for the NSA. Emailing the discussion list will probably solve it. Solve them anyway with Doocracy.  Martin is proposing a cleaning party, maybe on the weekend. 
Daniella proposes that we have a contest of some sort where people brainstorm about how to spend the grant money in the most productive fashion.  
JgPeBJKEx6Y @ hackpad is us
=== Proposals from last week ===
=== Proposals from last week ===
 
???
''(Add any items which pass or are blocked to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''
 
=== Proposals for next week ===
=== Proposals for next week ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
== Discussion Items ==
== Discussion Items ==
 
Liz tells us that we need to think about how we want to consense on how to choose a president of noisebridge. We need a better system than bogosort. Board of Directors hath decreed that our current system is "whack". Consensus on the method will arrive soon as mana does from heaven.  
If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed until after the meeting ends.
Tom asks if there are consensus process proposals.
 
Liz recollects from memory that consensus is superior to some snaky method. LOL she did not, she recollected that the board liked the idea of the meeting agreeing on how to pick the president, but we also mentioned Leif's previous giant complicated voting process. Or consensus.  
During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exact what each person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the discuss page for this meeting.
Snail is the noiselumunati!
 
The mice will win.
PROPOSAL: SuperQ for president of Noisebridge.
Why?
* he is SuperQ
* he doesn't want to be treasurer
* he is a natural person
SuperQ neither accepts nor rejects the proposal.
Zeph secretly wants to be the President so he can put it on his business card.
PROPOSAL: Noisebridge presidency rotates hourly.
Whoever catches the most mice gets to be President. (Zeph can get behind this)
Liz claims that the board has no real responsibilities. (Except making sure people are there). Also, putting it on their resume that they're on the board.
== End of Meeting ==
== End of Meeting ==
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now, check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now, check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.
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* Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker or robot.
* Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker or robot.
* Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.
* Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.
[[Category:Meeting Notes]]
[[Category:Meeting Notes]]
75jj

Latest revision as of 00:37, 11 July 2012

Agenda

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The 224th Meeting of Noisebridge Note-taker: Zeph the Hacking Homosapien Moderator: Tom (No fancy business... yet; any objections to Tom moderating? no.)

Introduction and Names

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https://hackpad.com/JgPeBJKEx6Y - Go here if you're cool enough. Noisebridge is about being excellent. Who's here?

  • Tom, he's had two beers and is in a perfect place to moderate.
  • Jehan, Always entertained
  • Randall, Not sleeping.
  • Carlos, Used to be ROADIE FOR FUCKING WU TANG CLAN. Pays his taxes
  • Za, Just another heckler
  • Zephyrs here and he's mad and he's not going to take it anymore!
  • Carl is here and jamming, in a good mood.
  • Crutcher, Regrets nothing.
  • Liz, I do stuff and mess around with computers and is a writer.
  • Mike, he doesn't do alot here. Every once in a while, just stuff.
  • Snail, "what is up?"
  • Daniella, French teacher here and does all sorts of things.
  • Allan M. Trujillo, It's not his first time here. (via fakenamegenerator.com)
  • Mitch Altman, also not his first time here. (Perhaps not really mitch altman?)
  • Fake Jake Applebaum. He's invisible.
  • Eric, he's chillin.

Short Announcements

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Tom declares there to be a short announcement: "I've got boxes with computer parts, so, uhh, heckle me about that."

New or Stale Events

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Tom is a slacker so he's not even going to try. Daniella says French classes are going to change. It's going to be the same time this week, but after this week she will change it to wednesday because of work. She's open to suggestions on a new time. Trujillo declares Go sundays to be on like donkey kong. BTC IS WORTH MORE THAN 7 USD!!!!!!! THIS IS REAL PEOPLE. CALL YOUR PARENTS, BUY NOW! DRUGS ON THE INTERNET ARE WORTH MORE THAN EVER! Beeeercoin!

Jake was made a member last week so deal with it. Nick Owens aka Mischief. Is a cool guy and isn't afraid of anything. He likes too many things to recite them on paper. Is his 2nd week of being read. Nike (Tearzak?) - 4th week being blocked but nobody liked him anyway (I guess?). Adam Cozette - No sponsors, basically dead to us. Tom wants to be proxied. Thats what it says. Tom voices his opinion on the 4-week-filibuster (against, of course). Tom wants people to interact, Carl poses conterfactual. Tom decides he doesn't care. Snail wants us to not start checking boxes until there are signatures. The power of process declares this not legit. Tom and J-Z engage in exegesis on the law of Noisebridge. Ryan got blocked, Daniella "gives a no". Tom says something and so does Lief. Lives in Oakland. Liz wants to know why we care about these old and dilapidated member entries. Tom thinks we should have a good process thats smooth and otherwise preferable. Tom says something about scrutinizing members. Liz points out that showing up to a meeting is basically a roll of the dice. Tom states that if nobody knows who someone is then we should be blocking them. Liz and Crutcher are obstreporously (This word is not certified as "legit" by Zephyr) questioning why Tom is blocking by proxy for a really unlikely edge case for just in case someone's name is read 4 times at a meeting without 2 sponsors and no one knows who they are and then they show up the following week and suddenly become a member. In that case, Tom blocks every time. I don't want to consense on this planet anymore.

Financial Report

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Noisebridge has recently signed a multimillion dollar Movie deal to produce a new summer blockbuster "Step Up Revolution: Hackers in Heat"

Our financial situation surely doesn't matter after our rise to fame in Hollywood.

  • There are $1759.82 earmarked NoiseTor funds
  • Colo service has been paid through Jul 7, 2012
  • There are enough funds to pay for an additional 2 months of colo
  • This information was updated at Tue Jul 10 20:30:06 2012

Consensus items

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Grant thing needs to be sorted out for real at next week's showdown meeting. We must email Danny, Liz is not his secretary. He is our secretary. Kelly proposes that we should hire someone to bookkeep for us. Perhaps we could craft a loving robot to do our books. Kelly exposes her anti-bot point of view. Lief tries to defend robot kind. Kelly stoops so low as to call it "a stupid fucking robot", silly meat-being. Ben wants to know why our books are whack. Crutcher declares robocracy inadequate and we need to find out how much money things cost. Books should be open source? Sanitization of books important! Because some members would not want their wallet names public. Kelly will move forward with hiring a bookkeeper, lets get real here, society isn't ready for robot CPAs. Lief states that his opposition to the grant would partially be solved if it was a less ambiguous grant. Kelly changes her stance on robot-kind after heartfelt discussion on the real motives of our robot friends. Shiny paper distracts us again. Martin wants us to do something about the mice. The mice threat has grown bolder. They're growing and networking and becoming a sentient entity perhaps capable of spying on Noisebridge for the NSA. Emailing the discussion list will probably solve it. Solve them anyway with Doocracy. Martin is proposing a cleaning party, maybe on the weekend. Daniella proposes that we have a contest of some sort where people brainstorm about how to spend the grant money in the most productive fashion. JgPeBJKEx6Y @ hackpad is us

Proposals from last week

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???

Proposals for next week

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Discussion Items

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Liz tells us that we need to think about how we want to consense on how to choose a president of noisebridge. We need a better system than bogosort. Board of Directors hath decreed that our current system is "whack". Consensus on the method will arrive soon as mana does from heaven. Tom asks if there are consensus process proposals. Liz recollects from memory that consensus is superior to some snaky method. LOL she did not, she recollected that the board liked the idea of the meeting agreeing on how to pick the president, but we also mentioned Leif's previous giant complicated voting process. Or consensus. Snail is the noiselumunati! The mice will win. PROPOSAL: SuperQ for president of Noisebridge. Why?

  • he is SuperQ
  • he doesn't want to be treasurer
  • he is a natural person

SuperQ neither accepts nor rejects the proposal. Zeph secretly wants to be the President so he can put it on his business card. PROPOSAL: Noisebridge presidency rotates hourly. Whoever catches the most mice gets to be President. (Zeph can get behind this) Liz claims that the board has no real responsibilities. (Except making sure people are there). Also, putting it on their resume that they're on the board.

End of Meeting

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  • PGP Key Signing could happen now, check the list to see who wants in on the action.
  • Return the membership binder to it's rightful location.
  • Clean and tidy the meeting notes, then save them to the wiki.
  • Send a summary of the meeting notes to the discussion list.
  • Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker or robot.
  • Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.

75jj