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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge]


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Date: 2019-09-24
Date: 2019-09-24


Note-taker: Ryan Sternlicht, Jaguar
Note-taker(s):


Moderators: Tim -  He him genetegic enginering, genreal annoince.
* Ryan Sternlicht
* Jaguar


* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
Moderators:


== Meeting Summary ==
* Tim (He/Him): genetic engineering
FIXME FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
 
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
= High Level =
* Fundraising Update
 
* Three new Philanthropists (Tinnei, John, Marco)
* New lease agreement terms
* 3 consensus items passed
 
= Meeting Summary =
 
* Fundraising Update: N/A
* Announcements:
* Announcements:
** September 28th: Loisville makerfaire.
** September 29: Bring a cake get some cake day.
** (this weekend?): Noisebridge improvement hackathon along with noise pancakes.
** October 5th & 6th: Hacker Dojo is celebrating their 10th anniversary.
** October 19th & 20th: Stupid crap no one needs and terrible need hackathon.
** Oct 25-27: Calhack hackathon (also for non students), UC Berkley, , [https://calhacks.io/ https://calhacks.io/]
** Oct 25-27: TechTogether NYC hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), NYC, [https://newyork.techtogether.io/ https://newyork.techtogether.io/]
** Nov 13-17: Morgan-Brainhack global ~ brainhack.org
** Jan 31 - Feb 2 2020: TechTogether Boston hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), Boston: [https://boston.techtogether.io/ https://boston.techtogether.io/]
** Nov/Dec (something?): LEGO is having a hackathon, up to . we have 98 days to integrate amazon alexa and legos
* Finances:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New members: N/A
* New philanthropists:
* New philanthropists: Tinnei, John, Marco
* Consensus Items:  
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:
* Discussion Items:


= Introductions =
= Introductions =


Tim- intro in mod section
* Tim: (intro in moderator section).
Tyler (remote) - woodworking, learning how to solder stuff good
* Tyler (remote): woodworking, learning how to solder stuff good.
Anas- he him, copanhagan- Dotopia hacker, does hardware hacker
* Anas (he/him): copanhagan ~ Dotopia hacker, does hardware hacking.
Frankk- data comuunication, learning how to do stock option trading
* Frank: data comuunication, learning how to do stock option trading.
Tinnei- Designer, illistrator, this thing xt to me, she her
* Tinnei (she/her): Designer, illistrator, this thing xt to me.
Marco- Software development, likes LEDS, helping build new website for noisebridge
* Marco: Software development, likes LED's, helping build new website for Noisebridge.
Erik- Java developer, he him
* Erik (he/him): Java developer.
Dave (Porter)- software, he  him
* Dave Porter (he/him): software.
Dave - he him, software, electronincs
* Dave (he/him): software, electronincs.
Jaguar- software (not in meeting). I'm here now, also kinda do hardware. getting into ESP's.
* Jaguar (he/him/Jay/they): Software (not in meeting). I'm here now, also kinda do hardware. getting into ESP's.
Morgan- Nerofedora, nerotechx edu, phyciatric neurotech
* Morgan: Nerofedora, nerotechx edu, phyciatric neurotech.
John-- he him, software, basic hardware, networking, visual programming
* John (he/him): software, basic hardware, networking, visual programming.
Ryan- Everything, Member,
* Ryan: Everything. Member.
Ait- Syrian refuge, studing media, c++, media, it or them, (secret agency milita torture himan trafficing slave)
* Ait (it/them): Syrian refuge, studing media, C++, media, (secret agency milita torture human trafficing slave).
Rex- he him- fabric, vr and wood hacker, beatboxer, cosplayer
* Rex (he/him): fabric, vr and wood hacker, beatboxer, cosplayer.
Steven- he him- I do software, hacking on music.
* Steven (he/him): I do software, hacking on music.
Ian- He him- vedio sculpture stuff
* Ian (He/him): video sculpture stuff.
* Steve (''M''ember): <code>sitting behind flaschen, listening in</code>


= Short announcements and events =
== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''


Frank- on the 28th of september loisville makerfaire happening  
* Frank: on the 28th of september loisville makerfaire happening
* Ryan: On October 5th and 6th, Hacker Dojo is celebrating their 10th anniversary. If you want to do a presentation, talk to Ryan after the meeting. &quot;[Hacker Dojo] is on their way back to being decent.&quot;
* Ryan: um, so.. we're going to try to repair some of noisebridges. um, so. noisebridge is going to host a. noisebridge marathon. what's the.... (marco: uh, the announcement is. hackathon to improve noisebridge, however, uh, it seems its colliding with noise pancakes. weekly improvement workshop. a lot of the things wouldn't be possible to do one weekend.)
* All: Stupid crap no one needs and terrible need hackathon (October 19th and 20th). The explination is in the name. ''Ryan tells stories about past projects'' (Ryan: there is not stupid of an idea. an easy test: if it can be funded, it's probably too smart.)
* Calhack hackathon (also for non students), UC Berkley, Oct 25-27, [https://calhacks.io/ https://calhacks.io/]
* TechTogether NYC hackathon (for woman &amp; non binary folks), NYC, Oct 25-27, [https://newyork.techtogether.io/ https://newyork.techtogether.io/]
* TechTogether Boston hackathon (for woman &amp; non binary folks), Boston, Jan 31 - Feb 2 2020 [https://boston.techtogether.io/ https://boston.techtogether.io/]
* Rex: Bring a cake get some cake, September 29
* Morgan-Brainhack global in november, brainhack.org can help you find a group, if you can do software. Nov 13-17
* Ryan: LEGO is having a hackathon, up to Nov/Dec something. we have 98 days to integrate amazon alexa and legos. I think noisebridge should. I'll happily buy the lego that's needed to paticipate. the winning team gets a free trip to the lego headquarters and get a private tour. if anyone knows. getting a private lego headquarters is harder that the disney headquarters. officially: 3 video tours of the lego headquarters last time I checked. ALSO: noisebridge doesn't have enoguh legos. I&quot;m sorry (Rex: found massive kits of legos for dirt cheap. may have gift card money. will only do it if it gets used).


Ryan- On October 5th and 6th, Hacker Dojo is celebrating their 10th anniversary. If you want to do a presentation, talk to Ryan after the meeting. "[Hacker Dojo] is on their way back to being decent."
= Excellence =


Ryan- um, so.. we're going to try to repair some of noisebridges. um, so. noisebridge is going to host a. noisebridge marathon. what's the.... (marco: uh, the announcement is. hackathon to improve noisebridge, however, uh, it seems its colliding with noise pancakes. weekly improvement workshop. a lot of the things wouldn't be possible to do one weekend.)
<blockquote>Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.
</blockquote>
<pre>
Ryan: Ane of the folks that applied for excellence (new philanthropists)
  should explain what this is.
 
John: contribute to noisebirdge while being positive.


All- Stupid crap no one needs and terrible need hackathon (October 19th and 20th).  The explination is in the name. *Ryan tells stories about past projects* (Ryan: there is not stupid of an idea. an easy test: if it can be funded, it's probably too smart.)
Ryan: question: what's our anti-harassement policy?


- Calhack hackathon (also for non students), UC Berkley, Oct 25-27, https://calhacks.io/
John: it's on the wiki!


- TechTogether NYC hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), NYC, Oct 25-27, https://newyork.techtogether.io/
  *chatter about how there are many different versions everywhere*


- TechTogether Boston hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), Boston, Jan 31 - Feb 2 2020 https://boston.techtogether.io/
Tim: porn/sex projects?


Rex- Cake for , bring a cake get some cake, September 29
John: you let everyone know.


Morgan-Brainhack global in november, brainhack.org can help you find a group, if you can do  software. Nov 13-17
Tim: someone who is not John? The question is: what's the other most
  important thing on the anti-harassement policy other than not be a
  dick.


Ryan: LEGO is having a hackathon, up to Nov/Dec something. we have 98 days to integrate amazon alexa and legos. I think noisebridge should. I'll happily buy the lego that's needed to paticipate. the winning team gets a free trip to the lego headquarters and get a private tour. if anyone knows. getting a private lego headquarters is harder that the disney headquarters. officially: 3 video tours of the lego headquarters last time I checked. ALSO: noisebridge doesn't have enoguh legos. I"m sorry (Rex: found massive kits of legos for dirt cheap. may have gift card money. will only do it if it gets used).
Tim: Maro, do you know what it is?


Marco: Being able to ask someone to leave?


Tim: winner! insta philanthrophy status.


Tim: *explains asking someone to leave* / not banned for life / take a
  break for a day, couple of days, a week. if it's so bad, talk about 86
  person. happens when you break stuff, steal, etc.


= Excellence =
John: if asked to leave, the excellent move is to leave.
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''


(What does that mean?  How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this?  Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is?  This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)
Ryan: I want to add one thing, that, um, also being excleent to each
  other also means watching out for other people in the space. if it
  looks like someone is getting harassed or something, step in, but be
  curtious. be patient when stepping in. know what's going on before
  taking action that could harm both parties. um, as a philanthrophist,
  or, as a general member of noisebridge. watch out for each other, and
  that is a very excellent thing to do. we're all family here, we're all
  a part of noisebridge.


John: you don't have to be a philanthropist or Member to ask someone to
  leave.


Ryan: one of the folks that applied for excellence should explain what this is.
John: contribute to noisebirdge while being positive.
Ryan: question: what's our anti-harassement policy
John: it's on the wiki
*chatter about how there are many different versions*
Tim: porn/sex projects?
John: you let everyone know.
Tim: someone who is not john? The question is: what's the other most important thing on the anti-harassement policy other than not be a dick.
Tim: maro, do you know what it is?
Marco: being able to ask someone to leave?
Tim: winner! insta philanthrophy status.
Tim: *explains asking someone to leave* / not banned for life / take a break for a day, couple of days, a week. if it's so bad, talk about 86 person. happens when you break stuff, steal, etc.
John: if asked to leave, the excellent move is to leave.
Ryan: I want to add one thing, that, um, also being excleent to each other also means watching out for other people in the space. if it looks like someone is getting harassed or something, step in, but be curtious. be patient when stepping in. know what's going on before taking action that could harm both parties. um, as a philanthrophist, or, as a general member of noisebridge. watch out for each other, and that is a very excellent thing to do. we're all family here, wee're all a part of noisebridge.
John: you don't have to be a philanthropist or Member to ask someone to leave.
Tim: yes.
Tim: yes.
Tim: if someone is making you uncomfortable, gather folks in the space to help get someone out. *tells story of getting 15 folks*


Tim: if someone is making you uncomfortable, gather folks in the space
  to help get someone out.
  *Tim tells story of getting ~15 folks at a party and crowding someone out*
</pre>


= Participation =
= Participation =
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''


(What does that mean?  How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)
<blockquote>Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.
</blockquote>
<pre>
Ryan: can one of you three explain how to participate at noisebridge?


Ryan: can on of you three explain how to participate at noisebridge?
Tinnei: give tours *could not hear!*
Tinnei: give tours *could not hear!*
John: open the door for people between 11 AM and 10PM,
Marco: Orginise events, clean the space, help people fix their thing, donate, ask people for help,


Ryan: um, also, participation includes what you guys want to do. um, do your own projects here. help eachother, but also, if you need to work on something yourself (have a deadline or something), that's fine. can check if anyone else needs help on their projects.
John: open the door for people between 11 AM and 10PM.
 
Marco: Organize events, clean the space, help people fix their thing,
  donate, ask people for help,
 
Ryan: um, also, participation includes what you guys want to do. um, do
  your own projects here. help eachother, but also, if you need to work on
  something yourself (have a deadline or something), that's fine. can
  check if anyone else needs help on their projects.
</pre>
 
= [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Philanthropist Philanthropists] =
 
<blockquote>A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.
</blockquote>
<pre>
John: since you're allowed to be the last person at noisebridge. turn
  things off, don't cause fires.
 
Tim: 3d printers are HOT. turn those off.


= [[Philanthropist|Philanthropists]]=
Ryan: also, wait. where is Jay? is he a philanthropist?
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''


(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)
  *chatter*


John: since you're allowed to be the last person at noisebridge. turn things off, don't cause fires.
Tim: FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.


TIM: 3d printers are HOT. turn those off.
Tim: be aware of the space.


Ryan: also, wait. where is Jay? is he a philanthropist?  
Tim: are you going to orient them (the folks that applied for
  philanthrophy) after?


TIM: FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.
Ryan: no, as the sponser I need to question them.


Tim- be aware of the space, you are not
Tim: good lord, do this fast. people want to talk about nosibridge
  stuff.


Tim: are you going to orient them after?
Ryan: wait just a sec. first, um, with philanthrophy. this is part of
Ryan: no, as the sponser I need to question them
  the questions. ummm, uh.
tim: good lord, do this fast. people want to talk about nosibridge stuff.
<pre>


Ryan: wait just a sec. first, um, with philanthrophy. this is part of the questions. ummm, uh.
== Ryan's Questions ==


=== Question 1: ===


Ryan: why do each of you want to become a philanthropist. (tim: one sentence or less)
<pre>
Ryan: why do each of you want to become a philanthropist. (Tim: one sentence or less)


- john: already donate to noisebridge, and want to stay late. already come to noisebridge.
* John: already donate to noisebridge, and want to stay late. already
- Tinnei: I just want to contribute regularily. want to stay late. help out more.
    come to noisebridge.
- marco: after spending 3 years on-and-off it's probably about time *laughs*
 
* Tinnei: I just want to contribute regularily. want to stay late. help
    out more.
 
* Marco: after spending 3 years on-and-off it's probably about time (*crowd laughs*)


Tim: sunken cost fallacy, most excellent. ryan, next 9?
Tim: sunken cost fallacy, most excellent. ryan, next 9?


ryan: no, just going to ask three. so, um,  
Ryan: no, just going to ask three. so, um,
</pre>


=== Question 2: ===
<pre>
Ryan: what projects do you work on while at noisebrdige?
Ryan: what projects do you work on while at noisebrdige?
- Tinnei: building a physical computing device. I am building a device that is going to be portable, (projector?). it's basically. building a device that helps enhance physical space interaction. information exists in here & here (phones, devices, etc.). very isolated. can we bring this into the real world? can we make learning more interactive. it's the reason for the project. involves software, hardware, and digital design. it's why I'm here. want to ask for help when I need to. y'all are very execllent.


- John: currently workong on flaschen taschen project. maro on the flaschen *gives a demo*. it's all from scratch. I had another version where the window was incorporated. playing with other LED's. have a RPI that's not deployed at the moment, e.g. when people walk into the space, mary would say "welcome to noisebridge X". I have a duffle bag of LED's that I'm figuring out what to do with
* Tinnei: building a physical computing device. I am building a device
    that is going to be portable, (projector?). it's basically. building a
    device that helps enhance physical space interaction. information
    exists in here & here (phones, devices, etc.). very isolated. can we
    bring this into the real world? can we make learning more
    interactive. it's the reason for the project. involves software,
    hardware, and digital design. it's why I'm here. want to ask for help
    when I need to. y'all are very execllent.
 
* John: currently workong on flaschen taschen project. maro on the
    flaschen *gives a demo*. it's all from scratch. I had another version
    where the window was incorporated. playing with other LED's. have a
    RPI that's not deployed at the moment, e.g. when people walk into the
    space, mary would say "welcome to noisebridge X". I have a duffle bag
    of LED's that I'm figuring out what to do with
 
* Marco: software development, LED's, working on a new website for
    noisebridge


- Marco: software development, LED's, working on a new website for noisebridge
Ryan: ummm. uh.
</pre>


Ryan: ummm. uh.
=== Question 3: ===


<pre>
Ryan: how do you want to see nosiberdige improve in the future?
Ryan: how do you want to see nosiberdige improve in the future?


- Marco: More people engaged in the space, helping eachother, help noisebridge sically, make the space more welcoming
* Marco: More people engaged in the space, helping eachother, help
- Tinnei: I want to help organize the information in the space, clean up and redesign items for the space, event poster, and more.
    noisebridge sically, make the space more welcoming.
- John: Improveing flashentashen, debugging noisebride projects, improve tours, improve comunication with new pople
 
Frank- we are a cocreative space,
* Tinnei: I want to help organize the information in the space, clean up
Tim- co-procrastination space
    and redesign items for the space, event poster, and more.
 
* John: Improveing flashentashen, debugging noisebride projects, improve
    tours, improve communication with new pople.


Frank: we are a cocreative space,
Tim: co-procrastination space
Tim: is that the three?
Tim: is that the three?
Ryan: yes
Ryan: yes
Ryan: first up, marco. does anyone block marco to become a philanthropist of noisebridge?
</pre>
 
== Post-Ryan's questioning ==
 
=== Marco ===
 
<pre>
Ryan: first up, Marco. does anyone block marco to become a
philanthropist of noisebridge?
 
?: blocking?
?: blocking?
Ryan: anyone can block.
Ryan: anyone can block.


Tim: should I do the countdown?
Tim: should I do the countdown?
Ryan: yeah.
Ryan: yeah.
Tim: going once, going twice, three and sold marco is now a philanthropist.
Tim: going once, going twice, three and sold marco is now a philanthropist.


*cheers*
*cheers*
</pre>
=== Tinnei ===
<pre>
Ryan: so, does anyone have any issues with Tinnei becoming a
  philanthropist of noisebridge?


Ryan: so, does anone have any issues with Tinnei becoming a philanthropist of noisebridge?
Tim: so bad, that you wouldn't come back.
Tim: so bad, that you wouldn't come back.
Tinnei: going once, going twice, three times and Tinnei is a philanthropist.


Tim: going once, going twice, three times and Tinnei is a
philanthropist!
*cheers*
</pre>
=== John ===
<pre>
Ryan: does anyone want to block John?
Ryan: does anyone want to block John?
Tim: it's g


Tim: a one, a two, and a three. and john is a philanthropist.
Tim: a one, a two, and a three. and john is a philanthropist.


*cheers*
*cheers*
</pre>


Ryan: Alright, we have three new philanthropists. I'll show you around the space, show you how to close down, etc.
== Final Philanthrophy section ==


Tim: *talks about the hunt to get 24/7 access*. The real challenge.
<pre>
Ryan: Alright, we have three new philanthropists. I'll show you
  around the space, show you how to close down, etc.


'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''
Tim: *talks about the hunt to get 24/7 access* / "The real challenge"
</pre>


(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)
= [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Membership_Binder Membership Binder] =


<blockquote>Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.
</blockquote>
<pre>
Ryan: we don't have any membership applications
Ryan: we don't have any membership applications
Tim: yeah that's a joke.
Tim: yeah that's a joke.
</pre>


= Financial Report =


= Financial Report =
<blockquote>Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''
</blockquote>
<pre>


* Funds in bank: stable -- almost cash flow positive.
* Funds in bank: stable -- almost cash flow positive.
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Finances


Ryan: don't forget, we do have some fines and stuff. that will be brought up at the end
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of
of the meeting.
    http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary): N/A
 
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials:
    N/A
 
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at
    https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Finances
 
Ryan: don't forget, we do have some fines and stuff. that will be
  brought up at the end of the meeting
 
</pre>


== Fundraising Update ==
= Fundraising Update =
'''How's it all going'''


<blockquote>How's it all going
</blockquote>
<pre>
nope.
nope.
</pre>


= Consensus =
= Consensus =
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''


Ryan- Breocratic nightmares of noisebridge,  
<blockquote>Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.
</blockquote>
<pre>
Ryan: Breocratic nightmares of noisebridge,
</pre>
 
= [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Consensus_Items_History Proposals from last week] =


<blockquote>(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)
</blockquote>
<pre>
Ryan: three consensus items.


== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] ==
Tim: Steve you're in the back?
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''


*confirmation from steve*


Ryan: three consensus items.
Tim: steve you're in the back?
Ryan: I need someone else to take notes during this section.
Ryan: I need someone else to take notes during this section.
Tim: Jay are you note taking?
Tim: Jay are you note taking?
Jay: ye
Jay: ye


Ryan: current 3 consensus items. (1) allow the treasurer and the board to accept a new lease when it is given to us by the landlord, and is deamed favorable terms for the extension of noisebridge's lease. um. yeah. um. so. since there are two members here, we can probably actually consenus this. Let me post in the notes what our current goals are.
Ryan: current 3 consensus items. (1) allow the treasurer and the board
  to accept a new lease when it is given to us by the landlord, and is
  deamed favorable terms for the extension of noisebridge's
  lease. um. yeah. um. so. since there are two members here, we can
  probably actually consenus this. Let me post in the notes what our
  current goals are.
 
Ryan: um, so, Ruth removed these consensus items, but I don't think we
  should do these things without consensus as these are different than
  extending a lease and stuff, so, um. I'm going to um. hmm. ok, wait just
  a sec. umm. ok, ummm. yeah, so.


Ryan: um, so, Ruth removed these consensus items, but I don't think we should do these things without consensus as these are different than extending a lease and stuff, so, um. I'm going to um. hmm. ok, wait just a sec. umm. ok, ummm. yeah, so.


current_time: 21:18
current_time: 21:18


Ryan: just going to post these here
Ryan: just going to post these here -----
</pre>


09/10/19Ryan SternlichtApprove New Lease When it is given to us
== Item One: Approve New Lease When it is given to us ==


    Noisebridge is currently negotiating a new lease, and it needs to be approved very soon,
=== Item ===


    here is some info on the current discussion
<pre>
09/10/19


    Tyler-One priority I have is removing the elevator clause from the lease. As it stands, NoiseBridge is responsible for 100% of the first $10,000 of repairs, and then 50% thereafter. There is no upper limit to the potential cost here. We are currently being billed $10,000 for the last elevator repair.
Ryan Sternlicht


    Tyler-For the month of September, Brian has told us to continue to pay $6,500
Approve New Lease When it is given to us:


     Tyler-My original request was a 5 year lease, same rate, without the elevator clause) but Brian was not interested.
     Noisebridge is currently negotiating a new lease, and
    it needs to be approved very soon,


     Tyler-His response was $7,250 to remove the elevator fee. I countered at $7.0k
     here is some info on the current discussion


     Tyler-He replied with $7,000 for a 2 year lease without the elevator cost.
     Tyler: One priority I have is removing the elevator
      clause from the lease. As it stands, NoiseBridge
      is responsible for 100% of the first $10,000 of
      repairs, and then 50% thereafter. There is no upper
      limit to the potential cost here. We are currently being
      billed $10,000 for the last elevator repair.


     Tyler-I asked for more then 2 years. Brian responded with 3 years at $7,100 / month.
     Tyler: For the month of September, Brian has told us
      to continue to pay $6,500


     Tyler-As it stands, I have countered with $7,000 for 2 years with a 2 year option at $7,250.
     Tyler: My original request was a 5 year lease, same
      rate, without the elevator clause) but Brian was
      not interested.


     Per Jarrod - it is really hard to justify large future costs (Zoning fee, sprinklers / second egress, etc.) if we are potentially limited by a short lease. I'd like to push for a longer term lease, but it would likely come with additional rent hikes.
     Tyler: His response was $7,250 to remove the elevator
      fee. I countered at $7.0k


     Looking for any and all opinions.
     Tyler: He replied with $7,000 for a 2 year lease
      without the elevator cost.


     I think we should decide whether to approve the board and treasurer to finalize and approve a new lease as soon as we get terms that are favorable to the general noisebridge community
     Tyler: I asked for more then 2 years. Brian responded
      with 3 years at $7,100 / month.


Ryan Sternlicht09/10/19Ryan SternlichtPurchace new Laser Tube
    Tyler: As it stands, I have countered with $7,000 for
      2 years with a 2 year option at $7,250.


     Our laser cutter is broken, we need a new tube
     Per Jarrod:  it is really hard to justify large future
      costs (Zoning fee, sprinklers / second egress, etc.)
      if we are potentially limited by a short lease. I'd
      like to push for a longer term lease, but it would
      likely come with additional rent hikes.


     a new tube costs around 1400 dollars, should we spend noisebridge money to buy a new tube
     Looking for any and all opinions.
 
    we use the machine a lot, and we should discuss if we want the 100 watt or 150 watt tube replacment


     I think we should decide and then approve the purchase of a new laser tube.
     I think we should decide whether to approve the board and
    treasurer to finalize and approve a new lease as soon as
    we get terms that are favorable to the general noisebridge community
</pre>


Ryan Sternlicht
=== Discussion ===


<pre>
Ryan: most of the board thinks thes can be small-c, but we should at
  lease have these written up. it sounds like most everyone agrees that
  it's a good idea to let treasurer and board. current options is.... (SEE
  ABOVE).


Ryan: most of the board thinks thes can be small-c, but we should at lease have these written up. it sounds like most everyone agrees that it's a good idea to let treasurer and board. current options is.... (SEE ABOVE).
Ryan: there are two members present. do both of us agree that we should
Ryan: there are two members present. do both of us agree that we should allow the treasurer.... actually, first, lets take comments.  
  allow the treasurer.... actually, first, lets take comments.


Tim: do we have an alternavite to renewing hte lease?
Tim: do we have an alternavite to renewing the lease?


Ryan: if you don't want to exist raise your hand
Ryan: if you don't want to exist raise your hand


*laughter*
  *laughter*


tim: if anyone has a magical space in SF....  
tim: if anyone has a magical space in SF....


tim: yo, steve are you here? are you good with giving tyler and the board to create a new lease?
tim: yo, steve are you here? are you good with giving tyler and the
  board to create a new lease?


steve: yeah, sure.
steve: yeah, sure.
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tim: can't find any fault with that logic.
tim: can't find any fault with that logic.


ryan: both members present consent that both the board and the treasurer can negotiate and finalize the lease terms without having to go through a full consensus.
ryan: both members present consent that both the board and the treasurer
  can negotiate and finalize the lease terms without having to go through
  a full consensus.
 
</pre>
 
== Item Two: New Laser Tube ==
 
=== Item ===
 
<pre>
09/10/19
 
Ryan Sternlicht
 
Purchace new Laser Tube
 
    Our laser cutter is broken, we need a new tube
 
    a new tube costs around 1400 dollars, should we spend
    noisebridge money to buy a new tube
 
    we use the machine a lot, and we should discuss if
    we want the 100 watt or 150 watt tube replacment
 
    I think we should decide and then approve the
    purchase of a new laser tube.
</pre>
 
=== Discussion ===


ryan: ok, the second consensus item is. to buy a new laser head for our laser cutter. looks like ruth, tyler, and a couple other laser cutter have already figured out what's best to buy. we can probably get a bit cheaper. maybe a 150w laser tube. people who are laser trained will no have to go through new laser training.
<pre>
ryan: ok, the second consensus item is. to buy a new laser head for our
  laser cutter. looks like ruth, tyler, and a couple other laser cutter
  have already figured out what's best to buy. we can probably get a bit
  cheaper. maybe a 150w laser tube. people who are laser trained will no
  have to go through new laser training.


tim: that's debatable though.
tim: that's debatable though.


ryan: might go through and prove that current laser trainer know what they're doing, sounds like.... the only reason it shouldn't go through small-c. sounds like every single person that I talked to wants a slightly more powerful laser. cut thicker materials more consistently so we don't have to run the laser over-and-over again. any comments?
ryan: might go through and prove that current laser trainer know what
  they're doing, sounds like.... the only reason it shouldn't go through
  small-c. sounds like every single person that I talked to wants a
  slightly more powerful laser. cut thicker materials more consistently so
  we don't have to run the laser over-and-over again. any comments?


franK: question. with higher power, metals.
franK: question. with higher power, metals.


ryan: because we have a Co2 mirror based laser, we can't directly laser reflective materials such as metal, but, if we get it certified, we can etch certain coatings, but not currently in our certified testing list. we recommend folks use a professional fiber laser system which is much safer. no chance that it will destroy our laser cutter, and will work a lot better.
ryan: because we have a Co2 mirror based laser, we can't directly laser
  reflective materials such as metal, but, if we get it certified, we can
  etch certain coatings, but not currently in our certified testing
  list. we recommend folks use a professional fiber laser system which is
  much safer. no chance that it will destroy our laser cutter, and will
  work a lot better.


frank: one of the alternatives: vinyl on laser cutter?
frank: one of the alternatives: vinyl on laser cutter?
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ryan: do not cut vynl. toxic. inhailing clorine is worst then drowning.
ryan: do not cut vynl. toxic. inhailing clorine is worst then drowning.


tim: don't fuck with.... we consensed with putting an RFID on the laser cutter.
tim: don't fuck with.... we consensed with putting an RFID on the laser
cutter.


Ryan: always had that plan.
Ryan: always had that plan.
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tim: expensive things
tim: expensive things


*chats about RFID on expensive things*
  *chats about RFID on expensive things*
*loud motorcycle outside drives by*
  *loud motorcycle outside drives by*
*chats about how RFID access on things is small-c*
  *chats about how RFID access on things is small-c*


ryan: bringing this up in big-c consensues is useful. this system might be legally liable if someone gets injured. whoever purchases it could be liable. we don't want that.
ryan: bringing this up in big-c consensues is useful. this system might
  be legally liable if someone gets injured. whoever purchases it could be
  liable. we don't want that.


tim: that may be true, but we should ask a lawyer.
tim: that may be true, but we should ask a lawyer.


ryan: in general, everyone I've talked to. 130 - 150w laser would be an improvement to the space and generally be an execllent thing. also, it would need to de taken care of quite a bit. more powerful, cut through thicker things faster. current air/exhuast system couldn't handle a laser cutter a quarter size of ours, but, after talking with ruth and tyler like, tyler I'm pretty sure is ready to spend the funds. sounds like, ruth, who has been in contact with a number of laser distributers knows quite well what to get, and I trust her decision in getting a new laser as she is someone who has consistently taken care of the laser, and is generally an excellent laser trainer, and....
ryan: in general, everyone I've talked to. 130 - 150w laser would be an
  improvement to the space and generally be an execllent thing. also, it
  would need to de taken care of quite a bit. more powerful, cut through
  thicker things faster. current air/exhuast system couldn't handle a
  laser cutter a quarter size of ours, but, after talking with ruth and
  tyler like, tyler I'm pretty sure is ready to spend the funds. sounds
  like, ruth, who has been in contact with a number of laser distributers
  knows quite well what to get, and I trust her decision in getting a new
  laser as she is someone who has consistently taken care of the laser,
  and is generally an excellent laser trainer, and....


tim: YO. HAlf this shit is Ruth maintained.
tim: YO. HAlf this shit is Ruth maintained.
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frank: something got bumped and something fell into  (??)
frank: something got bumped and something fell into  (??)


ryan: failure mode: lots of little things happend at once. our laser did not have enough neon/argon/whatever in the chamber. that laser cutter which is a 100w tube is the equivelent to a 100mW tube. can't burn through paper right now. now all that useful.
ryan: failure mode: lots of little things happend at once. our laser did
  not have enough neon/argon/whatever in the chamber. that laser cutter
  which is a 100w tube is the equivelent to a 100mW tube. can't burn
  through paper right now. now all that useful.


ein: one of the things I want to do is use the laser cutter.  
ein: one of the things I want to do is use the laser cutter.


ryan: um, so, we do actually. if you donate to noisebridge, you can select, or write in that you want to donate towards the laser fund, once it's working again, we have consistent laser training every couple of weeks. once trained, you can use the laser cutter. free to use, but really really would like donations. costs $5/hr of electricity to use. takes a lot of time and energy to maintain it.
ryan: um, so, we do actually. if you donate to noisebridge, you can
  select, or write in that you want to donate towards the laser fund, once
  it's working again, we have consistent laser training every couple of
  weeks. once trained, you can use the laser cutter. free to use, but
  really really would like donations. costs $5/hr of electricity to
  use. takes a lot of time and energy to maintain it.


tim: small-c. $10/hr to compensate for folks that don't donate?
tim: small-c. $10/hr to compensate for folks that don't donate?
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tim: excellent to donate anyway
tim: excellent to donate anyway


*discussion about laser fundraising when the laser was first introduced into the space*
  *discussion about laser fundraising when the laser was first
*chat about replacing mirrors & other components over time*
  introduced into the space*
 
  *chat about replacing mirrors & other components over time*


ryan: don't have funds set aside to hire tech to fix issues. small-c ok for this. ruth estimates that laser is used ~3hrs a day. about 3,000 hours put into it. had we maintained it better, maybe a bit more life. new laser tubes should last a lot longer, so, um. yeah. any other comments?
ryan: don't have funds set aside to hire tech to fix issues. small-c ok
  for this. ruth estimates that laser is used ~3hrs a day. about 3,000
  hours put into it. had we maintained it better, maybe a bit more
  life. new laser tubes should last a lot longer, so, um. yeah. any other
  comments?


frank: sign business. in 1996 to 2001. the things referred to neon lighting were opposed at the time. fill neon tubes?
frank: sign business. in 1996 to 2001. the things referred to neon
  lighting were opposed at the time. fill neon tubes?


ryan: cann't be filled if that's your question. that 's a questino that we had. tech looked at our tube, and not the type that can be refilled. new one CAN be refilled. ok, yeah, this meeting is going on quite a bit. any other questions..
ryan: cann't be filled if that's your question. that 's a questino that
  we had. tech looked at our tube, and not the type that can be
  refilled. new one CAN be refilled. ok, yeah, this meeting is going on
  quite a bit. any other questions..


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steve: nope. all good.
steve: nope. all good.


ryan: sounds like. anyone like to proxy block this? um, going to check on slack, um.... does not look like anything has been mentioned in general or finance. um.  
ryan: sounds like. anyone like to proxy block this? um, going to check
  on slack, um.... does not look like anything has been mentioned in
  general or finance. um.
 
ryan: ok, looks like we don't have any proxy blocks currently. doubt
  there will be a block as most think this is small-c. looks like, or
  wait, someone have a comment. OK COOL. we have consensed on a new laser
  tube. now it's at least documented in the system (notes??)
</pre>


ryan: ok, looks like we don't have any proxy blocks currently. doubt there will be a block as most think this is small-c. looks like, or wait, someone have a comment. OK COOL. we have consensed on a new laser tube. now it's at least documented in the system (notes??)
== Item Three: Give treasurer (Tyler) and Ruth access to NB bank account &amp; allow board to grant access in necessary circumstances ==


=== Pre-Item discussion ===


RYAN: 3rd consensus item is from last week. wait just a sec. going through the other meetings. um. uhh, yeah, wait just a sec. this next one is pretty important, um. it was proposed by ruth last week, and um. uhhhh.
<pre>
RYAN: 3rd consensus item is from last week. wait just a sec. going
  through the other meetings. um. uhh, yeah, wait just a sec. this next
  one is pretty important, um. it was proposed by ruth last week, and
  um. uhhhh.


marco: for the bank account?
marco: for the bank account?


ryan: yeah. um. we should do this. uhhhh.
ryan: yeah. um. we should do this. uhhhh.
</pre>
=== Item ===
<pre>
2019-09-17
Ruth
Give treasurer (Tyler) and Ruth access to NB bank account & allow board
to grant access in necessary circumstances
> Hi people at Noisebridge meeting, I'm Ruth, you may have seen me in
> the sewing area with or without baby Lee. I'm also on the Noisebridge
> board and have coordinated lease stuff with the landlord in the
> past. Right now we're running low on people who regularly show up to
> Noisebridge and also are signors on the Wells Fargo bank account. I
> think it would be best if Tyler as treasurer were a signor (he only
> has read access right now), and also myself as backup. The recent
> events that have prompted this are that we haven't paid the August and
> September rent due to the auto pay turning off as our lease ends, and
> no one having either time or access to deal with it. Luckily John has
> time to go to the bank to pay the rent tomorrow in person (from a new
> York bank branch), so we'll be ok this time, but for the future it
> would be good for Tyler and I to be signors to make it easier. As part
> of the process for adding people to the bank account, we need to have
> a record of meeting notes saying that we should be added. (The
> remaining process is for John and Nicole to sign something as
> administrators, and we also need two signors to go to the bank with
> Tyler and I in person before we can be added.)Please discuss at the
> meeting whether or not you think it should be a good idea for Tyler
> and separately me to be added to the bank account, and record it in
> the meeting notes.Sorry I couldn't make it to the meeting tonight.
>
> Ruth
</pre>
=== Discussion ===


current_time: 21:39
'''current_time: 21:39'''


ryan: posting it in the meeting notes here:
<pre>
Ryan: posting it in the meeting notes here:


> Ryan: Is this current consensus item in the wiki yet? (NB bank account).
> Ryan: Is this current consensus item in
> Ryan: I do agree that this is very critical to make sure that donations are properly being handled and being put into hte account on a regular basis. A lot of people have mentioned that we really should have a more regular deposit of cash donations as well as more people who can be, I can't remember the term.... emergency monetary issues, e.g. treasurer gets hurt, or, all of a sudden the financial market crashes, and we have to start trading, like, Mate.
>    the wiki yet? (NB bank account).
> *laughs*
>
> Ryan: ok. so let's discuss this a little bit. so that it may be, could be brought up in more detail at the next meeting. do people think, currently... currently we have two maybe three people that can actually access our bank account. like, we have a large number of people that can access our financial records, like our finaial records, as well as our fundraising and monetary systems (i.e. stripe, paypal, bitcoin). very few have access to our bank account, which is used for reimbursement for people who donate stuff, and use our general fund for reimbursement, as well as when we have events and when we want to pay guests, or big purchases like a new laser tube, elevator stuff, or stuff like that. it's critical that people have access to this... trusted people... what do people think?
> Ryan: I do agree that this is very critical
>    to make sure that donations are properly being
>    handled and being put into hte account on a
>    regular basis. A lot of people have mentioned
>    that we really should have a more regular deposit
>    of cash donations as well as more people who
>    can be, I can't remember the term.... emergency
>    monetary issues, e.g. treasurer gets hurt, or,
>    all of a sudden the financial market crashes, and
>    we have to start trading, like, Mate.
>
>    *laughs*
>
> Ryan: ok. so let's discuss this a little bit. so
that it may be, could be brought up in more detail at
the next meeting. do people think,
currently... currently we have two maybe
three people that can actually access our
bank account. like, we have a large number of
people that can access our financial records,
like our finaial records, as well as our
fundraising and monetary systems
(i.e. stripe, paypal, bitcoin). very few have
access to our bank account, which is used for
reimbursement for people who donate stuff,
and use our general fund for reimbursement,
as well as when we have events and when we
want to pay guests, or big purchases like a
new laser tube, elevator stuff, or stuff like
that. it's critical that people have access
to this... trusted people... what do people
think?
>
> Marco: Read ruth's message on this?
> Marco: Read ruth's message on this?
> Hi people at Noisebridge meeting, I'm Ruth, you may have seen me in the sewing area with or without baby Lee. I'm also on the Noisebridge board and have coordinated lease stuff with the landlord in the past. Right now we're running low on people who regularly show up to Noisebridge and also are signors on the Wells Fargo bank account. I think it would be best if Tyler as treasurer were a signor (he only has read access right now), and also myself as backup. The recent events that have prompted this are that we haven't paid the August and September rent due to the auto pay turning off as our lease ends, and no one having either time or access to deal with it. Luckily John has time to go to the bank to pay the rent tomorrow in person (from a new York bank branch), so we'll be ok this time, but for the future it would be good for Tyler and I to be signors to make it easier. As part of the process for adding people to the bank account, we need to have a record of meeting notes saying that we should be added. (The remaining process is for John and Nicole to sign something as administrators, and we also need two signors to go to the bank with Tyler and I in person before we can be added.)Please discuss at the meeting whether or not you think it should be a good idea for Tyler and separately me to be added to the bank account, and record it in the meeting notes.Sorry I couldn't make it to the meeting tonight.Ruth
>
> > Hi people at Noisebridge meeting, I'm Ruth,
> > you may have seen me in the sewing area
> > with or without baby Lee. I'm also on the
> > Noisebridge board and have coordinated
> > lease stuff with the landlord in the
> > past. Right now we're running low on people
> > who regularly show up to Noisebridge and
> > also are signors on the Wells Fargo bank
> > account. I think it would be best if Tyler
> > as treasurer were a signor (he only has
> > read access right now), and also myself as
> > backup. The recent events that have
> > prompted this are that we haven't paid the
> > August and September rent due to the auto
> > pay turning off as our lease ends, and no
> > one having either time or access to deal
> > with it. Luckily John has time to go to the
> > bank to pay the rent tomorrow in person
> > (from a new York bank branch), so we'll be
> > ok this time, but for the future it would
> > be good for Tyler and I to be signors to
> > make it easier. As part of the process for
> > adding people to the bank account, we need
> > to have a record of meeting notes saying
> > that we should be added. (The remaining
> > process is for John and Nicole to sign
> > something as administrators, and we also
> > need two signors to go to the bank with
> > Tyler and I in person before we can be
> > added.)Please discuss at the meeting
> > whether or not you think it should be a
> > good idea for Tyler and separately me to be
> > added to the bank account, and record it in
> > the meeting notes.Sorry I couldn't make it
> > to the meeting tonight.Ruth
 
> Ryan: I'll read it out loud
> Ryan: I'll read it out loud
> *reads message above *
>
> Ryan: I think that's a good idea. it's critical that we have this as people can see now. and also, for people who might not know ruthr or tyler, ruth has been coming to noisebridge for a long time. very instrumental in taking care of certain things. sewing area, laser cutter, runs numerious events. ran our social media for awhile. has been very helpful. on our board. um, and she is also a member, um, and then Tyler. Tyler is somewhat new to the space. only about a year, but his financial assistance with our historial financial records has been one of the key things that has allowed us to reinvigorate our moneypary system so it's all up to things that allows us to apply for grants that require a multi-year history of our background. Made treasurer two months ago. has been working extremely hard on keeping the noisebridge finances in order. um. so. having our treasurer not have access to our money is kind of bad
*reads message above *
>
> Ryan: I think that's a good idea. it's
critical that we have this as people can
see now. and also, for people who might not
know ruthr or tyler, ruth has been coming
to noisebridge for a long time. very
instrumental in taking care of certain
things. sewing area, laser cutter, runs
numerious events. ran our social media for
awhile. has been very helpful. on our
board. um, and she is also a member, um,
and then Tyler. Tyler is somewhat new to
the space. only about a year, but his
financial assistance with our historial
financial records has been one of the key
things that has allowed us to reinvigorate
our moneypary system so it's all up to
things that allows us to apply for grants
that require a multi-year history of our
background. Made treasurer two months
ago. has been working extremely hard on
keeping the noisebridge finances in
order. um. so. having our treasurer not
have access to our money is kind of bad
>
> *laughter*
> *laughter*
>
> Victor: what do you mean?
> Victor: what do you mean?
> Ryan: He can look at the money in the box, but can't spend it. Anyone else want to comment?
>
> Ryan: I think that's good for this topic. So. That will. That's in the meeting notes. Next meeting we can consensus on that, hopefully, so that we can pay our rent and stuff like that. um. so, yeah. I"m pretty sure that's everything for the regular stuff.
> Ryan: He can look at the money in the box,
but can't spend it. Anyone else want to
comment?
 
> Ryan: I think that's good for this
topic. So. That will. That's in the meeting
notes. Next meeting we can consensus on
that, hopefully, so that we can pay our
rent and stuff like that. um. so, yeah. I"m
pretty sure that's everything for the
regular stuff.
 
Ryan: *describes the previous weeks discussion above*
 
Ryan: need funds to renew our lease. right now we have to. our treasurer
  has to proxy our funds through the former treasurer.
 
Tim: changing hands is nerve racking. it's your baby and you're giving
  it to someone else.
 
Ryan: any questions? proposed next week. needs ot be done really really
  sone. we think maybe three people have access to our bank account. only
  one is semi-active with noisebridge. two of the others are
  international. so. yeah. one I think is in NY, and one I have no
  idea. OK yes, they're not on the moon right now. does anyone have any
  qualms with giving Ruth and Tyler and possibly one other person they
  deem fit access to the bank account?


Ryan: *describes the above*
Ryan: need funds to renew our lease. right now we have to. our treasurer has to proxy our funds through the former treasurer.
Tim: changing hands is nerve racking. it's your baby and you're giving it to someone else.
Ryan: any questions? proposed next week. needs ot be done really really sone. we think maybe three people have access to our bank account. only one is semi-active with noisebridge. two of the others are international. so. yeah. one I think is in NY, and one I have no idea. OK yes, they're not on the moon right now. does anyone have any qualms with giving Ruth and Tyler and possibly one other person they deem fit access to the bank account?
marco: *asks clarifying question*
marco: *asks clarifying question*
Ryan: tyler is our current treasurer. excellent beyond anything I can say. he has been excellent at helping noisebridge do a lot of financial upkeep and generally has allowed us to more more accurate than any other time with financials. ruth has been a board member, a, like, a person who generally oversees a lot of stuff in the space. an event host, a mentor, a teacher, a guide, she generally is one of the most dedicate people at nosiebrideg for quite a long time, and is generally very knowledgeable in taking care of noisebridge, and um, all that stuff, um. yeah, so. anyone, um, have any conserns they want to bring up?
 
ryan: um... does the other member present want to block giving Tyler, Ruth, and if necessary, other people access to the, um, bank account on a, like, um, like, general consensus basis, or, right now Ruth and Tyler are the only two we neeed to consensus on. extra: allow tyler and ruth to give other people access.  
Ryan: tyler is our current treasurer. excellent beyond anything I can
  say. he has been excellent at helping noisebridge do a lot of financial
  upkeep and generally has allowed us to more more accurate than any other
  time with financials. ruth has been a board member, a, like, a person
  who generally oversees a lot of stuff in the space. an event host, a
  mentor, a teacher, a guide, she generally is one of the most dedicate
  people at nosiebrideg for quite a long time, and is generally very
  knowledgeable in taking care of noisebridge, and um, all that stuff,
  um. yeah, so. anyone, um, have any conserns they want to bring up?
 
ryan: um... does the other member present want to block giving Tyler,
  Ruth, and if necessary, other people access to the, um, bank account on
  a, like, um, like, general consensus basis, or, right now Ruth and Tyler
  are the only two we neeed to consensus on. extra: allow tyler and ruth
  to give other people access.
 
steve: fine.
steve: fine.
ryan: sounds like other member present is fine with giving tyler and ruth access. and allowing the board to give access on necessary circumstance. and, um, I don't block this eather. um. OK. that is consensused.  
 
ryan: sounds like other member present is fine with giving tyler and
  ruth access. and allowing the board to give access on necessary
  circumstance. and, um, I don't block this eather. um. OK. that is
  consensused.
 
tim: this is super fucking rare. we run on anarchy.
tim: this is super fucking rare. we run on anarchy.
ryan: yeah. we haven't consensused this many in awhile.  
 
ryan: yeah. we haven't consensused this many in awhile.
 
tim: it would be a hat-trick if we could get a member tonight.
tim: it would be a hat-trick if we could get a member tonight.


*discussion about Members*
  *discussion about Members*
  *Ryan was the last full member jokes*
 
ryan: now that we're done with those, there are no consensues items for
  next week. OK SO. discussion. also, um, actually. I think at the
  beginning we didn't explain what consensues is. yeah. holy crap.
 
ryan: consensus is bureaucratic nightmares to keep it short.
 
ryan: you pretty much saw what is it. you get to block what consensus
  items are passing. blocks signify that you think nb would die if it
  passes. rarely comes up.
 
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= [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items Proposals for next week] =
 
<blockquote>Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.
</blockquote>


*Ryan was the last full member jokes*
== 1. New Lease ==


ryan: now that we're done with those, there are no consensues items for next week. OK SO. discussion. also, um, actually. I think at the beginning we didn't explain what consensues is. yeah. holy crap.
<pre>
Tyler (remote): Hi noisebridge. Just got the updated lease from the
  landlord. Basics are:


ryan: consensus is bureaucratic nightmares to keep it short.
  ```
  Term 10/01/19 - 9/30/2023 (4 years)
  Rent: Y1: 7,000, Y2: $7,000, Y3: $7,200, Y4: $7,200
  Elevator Clause removed
  Responsibility to maintain stairwell / landing / exterior removed
  ```


ryan: you pretty much saw what is it. you get to block what consensus items are passing. blocks signify that you think nb would die if it passes. rarely comes up.
  The line from the lease that is in question by our Attorney:


  > Tenant will take responsibility of
  > improvements/maintenance related to
  > occupancy of the third floor. Tenant also
  > has permission to do general building
  > improvements/maintence including securing
  > the gate, repainting the stairway and
  > entry, cleaning any grafitti on the
  > exterior of the building, and typical pest
  > control."


== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
  Mostly the first sentence:
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
Tyler (remote): Hi noisebridge. Just got the updated lease from the landlord. Basics are:
    Term 10/01/19 - 9/30/2023 (4 years)
    Rent: Y1: 7,000, Y2: $7,000, Y3: $7,200, Y4: $7,200
    Elevator Clause removed
    Responsibility to maintain stairwell / landing / exterior removed
   
    The line from the lease that is in question by our Attorney:
       
        "Tenant will take responsibility of improvements/maintenance related to occupancy of the third floor. Tenant also has permission to do general building improvements/maintence including securing the gate, repainting the stairway and entry, cleaning any grafitti on the exterior of the building, and typical pest control."
       


    Mostly the first sentence:
  > Tenant will take responsibility of
  > improvements/maintenance related to
  > occupancy of the third floor."




    "Tenant will take responsibility of improvements/maintenance related to occupancy of the third floor."
  There are some meaningful costs related to
  bringing the sprinklers up to code (and
  potentially opening a second egress). Ideally
  we want the landlord to pay for this. We'll
  see if we can come to an agreement on that.
</pre>


=== Discussion ===


    There are some meaningful costs related to bringing the sprinklers up to code (and potentially opening a second egress). Ideally we want the landlord to pay for this. We'll see if we can come to an agreement on that. 
<pre>


  *cheers*


*cheers*
  *question asked on statement on the fridge*


*question asked on statement on the fridge*
    - Tyler (remote): wait the white one, or the one that caught on fire?
    - Jaguar: sec, checking on it
    - ??: the white one with cold mate in it


    ((wait the white one, or the one that caught on fire?)
Ryan: if you're on discuss, please message
  tyler if you thinkg this is good. um,
  because, we do want peopl edo to small-c
  consensus on if they think this is
  good. don't think we can get this any
  lower. having a lease is very important. um,
  legally speaking it's kind of what keeps us
  here.


    (sec, checking on it --- Jaguar) <-- the white one with cold mate in it)
??: um, are we in danger


</pre>
Ryan: if you're on discuss, please message tyler if you thinkg this is good. um, because, we do want peopl edo to small-c consensus on if they think this is good. don't think we can get this any lower. having a lease is very important. um, legally speaking it's kind of what keeps us here.


??: um, are we in danger
= Discussion =
= Discussion =


== Discussion Item 1 ==
== Discussion Item 1: space(pirate) problems and hackathon improvment ideas ==


space(pirate) problems and hackathon improvment ideas
<pre>
marco: sewing machines are broken.


marco: sewing machines are broken.
ryan: rearrange wires on the ceiling. can't clamp or attach anything on
  the sprinklers.
 
Marco: reschedule hackathon to first week of November, and add a weekly
  group


ryan: rearrange wires on the ceiling. can't clamp or attach anything on the sprinklers.
</pre>


Marco- reschedule hackathon to first week of November, and add a weekly group
== Discussion Item 2: Easy way to tag all broken things? So that we can work on repairing things ==


Easy way to tag all broken things?  So that we can work on repairing things
<pre>


Ait- sign outside noisebridge? <-- maybe we can be creative with the sign (need more discussion)
Ait: sign outside noisebridge? <-- maybe we can be creative with
  the sign (need more discussion)


fan sign : holographic fan sign?
fan sign: holographic fan sign?
</pre>


Meeting adjourned
= End of Meeting =
= End of Meeting =
<pre>
Meeting adjourned.
</pre>


[[Category:Meeting Notes]]
[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Revision as of 19:33, 25 September 2019

These are the notes from the The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge

Help take notes at - https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting

Date: 2019-09-24

Note-taker(s):

  • Ryan Sternlicht
  • Jaguar

Moderators:

  • Tim (He/Him): genetic engineering

High Level

  • Three new Philanthropists (Tinnei, John, Marco)
  • New lease agreement terms
  • 3 consensus items passed

Meeting Summary

  • Fundraising Update: N/A
  • Announcements:
    • September 28th: Loisville makerfaire.
    • September 29: Bring a cake get some cake day.
    • (this weekend?): Noisebridge improvement hackathon along with noise pancakes.
    • October 5th & 6th: Hacker Dojo is celebrating their 10th anniversary.
    • October 19th & 20th: Stupid crap no one needs and terrible need hackathon.
    • Oct 25-27: Calhack hackathon (also for non students), UC Berkley, , https://calhacks.io/
    • Oct 25-27: TechTogether NYC hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), NYC, https://newyork.techtogether.io/
    • Nov 13-17: Morgan-Brainhack global ~ brainhack.org
    • Jan 31 - Feb 2 2020: TechTogether Boston hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), Boston: https://boston.techtogether.io/
    • Nov/Dec (something?): LEGO is having a hackathon, up to . we have 98 days to integrate amazon alexa and legos
  • Finances:
  • New members: N/A
  • New philanthropists: Tinnei, John, Marco
  • Consensus Items:
  • Discussion Items:

Introductions

  • Tim: (intro in moderator section).
  • Tyler (remote): woodworking, learning how to solder stuff good.
  • Anas (he/him): copanhagan ~ Dotopia hacker, does hardware hacking.
  • Frank: data comuunication, learning how to do stock option trading.
  • Tinnei (she/her): Designer, illistrator, this thing xt to me.
  • Marco: Software development, likes LED's, helping build new website for Noisebridge.
  • Erik (he/him): Java developer.
  • Dave Porter (he/him): software.
  • Dave (he/him): software, electronincs.
  • Jaguar (he/him/Jay/they): Software (not in meeting). I'm here now, also kinda do hardware. getting into ESP's.
  • Morgan: Nerofedora, nerotechx edu, phyciatric neurotech.
  • John (he/him): software, basic hardware, networking, visual programming.
  • Ryan: Everything. Member.
  • Ait (it/them): Syrian refuge, studing media, C++, media, (secret agency milita torture human trafficing slave).
  • Rex (he/him): fabric, vr and wood hacker, beatboxer, cosplayer.
  • Steven (he/him): I do software, hacking on music.
  • Ian (He/him): video sculpture stuff.
  • Steve (Member): sitting behind flaschen, listening in

Short announcements and events

  • Frank: on the 28th of september loisville makerfaire happening
  • Ryan: On October 5th and 6th, Hacker Dojo is celebrating their 10th anniversary. If you want to do a presentation, talk to Ryan after the meeting. "[Hacker Dojo] is on their way back to being decent."
  • Ryan: um, so.. we're going to try to repair some of noisebridges. um, so. noisebridge is going to host a. noisebridge marathon. what's the.... (marco: uh, the announcement is. hackathon to improve noisebridge, however, uh, it seems its colliding with noise pancakes. weekly improvement workshop. a lot of the things wouldn't be possible to do one weekend.)
  • All: Stupid crap no one needs and terrible need hackathon (October 19th and 20th). The explination is in the name. Ryan tells stories about past projects (Ryan: there is not stupid of an idea. an easy test: if it can be funded, it's probably too smart.)
  • Calhack hackathon (also for non students), UC Berkley, Oct 25-27, https://calhacks.io/
  • TechTogether NYC hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), NYC, Oct 25-27, https://newyork.techtogether.io/
  • TechTogether Boston hackathon (for woman & non binary folks), Boston, Jan 31 - Feb 2 2020 https://boston.techtogether.io/
  • Rex: Bring a cake get some cake, September 29
  • Morgan-Brainhack global in november, brainhack.org can help you find a group, if you can do software. Nov 13-17
  • Ryan: LEGO is having a hackathon, up to Nov/Dec something. we have 98 days to integrate amazon alexa and legos. I think noisebridge should. I'll happily buy the lego that's needed to paticipate. the winning team gets a free trip to the lego headquarters and get a private tour. if anyone knows. getting a private lego headquarters is harder that the disney headquarters. officially: 3 video tours of the lego headquarters last time I checked. ALSO: noisebridge doesn't have enoguh legos. I"m sorry (Rex: found massive kits of legos for dirt cheap. may have gift card money. will only do it if it gets used).

Excellence

Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.

Ryan: Ane of the folks that applied for excellence (new philanthropists)
  should explain what this is.

John: contribute to noisebirdge while being positive.

Ryan: question: what's our anti-harassement policy?

John: it's on the wiki!

  *chatter about how there are many different versions everywhere*

Tim: porn/sex projects?

John: you let everyone know.

Tim: someone who is not John? The question is: what's the other most
  important thing on the anti-harassement policy other than not be a
  dick.

Tim: Maro, do you know what it is?

Marco: Being able to ask someone to leave?

Tim: winner! insta philanthrophy status.

Tim: *explains asking someone to leave* / not banned for life / take a
  break for a day, couple of days, a week. if it's so bad, talk about 86
  person. happens when you break stuff, steal, etc.

John: if asked to leave, the excellent move is to leave.

Ryan: I want to add one thing, that, um, also being excleent to each
  other also means watching out for other people in the space. if it
  looks like someone is getting harassed or something, step in, but be
  curtious. be patient when stepping in. know what's going on before
  taking action that could harm both parties. um, as a philanthrophist,
  or, as a general member of noisebridge. watch out for each other, and
  that is a very excellent thing to do. we're all family here, we're all
  a part of noisebridge.

John: you don't have to be a philanthropist or Member to ask someone to
  leave.

Tim: yes.

Tim: if someone is making you uncomfortable, gather folks in the space
  to help get someone out.

  *Tim tells story of getting ~15 folks at a party and crowding someone out*

Participation

Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.

Ryan: can one of you three explain how to participate at noisebridge?

Tinnei: give tours *could not hear!*

John: open the door for people between 11 AM and 10PM.

Marco: Organize events, clean the space, help people fix their thing,
  donate, ask people for help,

Ryan: um, also, participation includes what you guys want to do. um, do
  your own projects here. help eachother, but also, if you need to work on
  something yourself (have a deadline or something), that's fine. can
  check if anyone else needs help on their projects.

A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.

John: since you're allowed to be the last person at noisebridge. turn
  things off, don't cause fires.

Tim: 3d printers are HOT. turn those off.

Ryan: also, wait. where is Jay? is he a philanthropist?

  *chatter*

Tim: FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.

Tim: be aware of the space.

Tim: are you going to orient them (the folks that applied for
  philanthrophy) after?

Ryan: no, as the sponser I need to question them.

Tim: good lord, do this fast. people want to talk about nosibridge
  stuff.

Ryan: wait just a sec. first, um, with philanthrophy. this is part of
  the questions. ummm, uh.
<pre>

== Ryan's Questions ==

=== Question 1: ===

<pre>
Ryan: why do each of you want to become a philanthropist. (Tim: one sentence or less)

* John: already donate to noisebridge, and want to stay late. already
    come to noisebridge.

* Tinnei: I just want to contribute regularily. want to stay late. help
    out more.

* Marco: after spending 3 years on-and-off it's probably about time (*crowd laughs*)

Tim: sunken cost fallacy, most excellent. ryan, next 9?

Ryan: no, just going to ask three. so, um,

Question 2:

Ryan: what projects do you work on while at noisebrdige?

* Tinnei: building a physical computing device. I am building a device
    that is going to be portable, (projector?). it's basically. building a
    device that helps enhance physical space interaction. information
    exists in here & here (phones, devices, etc.). very isolated. can we
    bring this into the real world? can we make learning more
    interactive. it's the reason for the project. involves software,
    hardware, and digital design. it's why I'm here. want to ask for help
    when I need to. y'all are very execllent.

* John: currently workong on flaschen taschen project. maro on the
    flaschen *gives a demo*. it's all from scratch. I had another version
    where the window was incorporated. playing with other LED's. have a
    RPI that's not deployed at the moment, e.g. when people walk into the
    space, mary would say "welcome to noisebridge X". I have a duffle bag
    of LED's that I'm figuring out what to do with

* Marco: software development, LED's, working on a new website for
    noisebridge

Ryan: ummm. uh.

Question 3:

Ryan: how do you want to see nosiberdige improve in the future?

* Marco: More people engaged in the space, helping eachother, help
    noisebridge sically, make the space more welcoming.

* Tinnei: I want to help organize the information in the space, clean up
    and redesign items for the space, event poster, and more.

* John: Improveing flashentashen, debugging noisebride projects, improve
    tours, improve communication with new pople.

Frank: we are a cocreative space,
Tim: co-procrastination space
Tim: is that the three?
Ryan: yes

Post-Ryan's questioning

Marco

Ryan: first up, Marco. does anyone block marco to become a
philanthropist of noisebridge?

?: blocking?

Ryan: anyone can block.

Tim: should I do the countdown?

Ryan: yeah.

Tim: going once, going twice, three and sold marco is now a philanthropist.

*cheers*

Tinnei

Ryan: so, does anyone have any issues with Tinnei becoming a
  philanthropist of noisebridge?

Tim: so bad, that you wouldn't come back.

Tim: going once, going twice, three times and Tinnei is a
philanthropist!

*cheers*

John

Ryan: does anyone want to block John?

Tim: a one, a two, and a three. and john is a philanthropist.

*cheers*

Final Philanthrophy section

Ryan: Alright, we have three new philanthropists. I'll show you
  around the space, show you how to close down, etc.

Tim: *talks about the hunt to get 24/7 access* / "The real challenge"

Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.

Ryan: we don't have any membership applications

Tim: yeah that's a joke.

Financial Report

Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.


* Funds in bank: stable -- almost cash flow positive.

* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of
    http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary): N/A

* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials:
    N/A

* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at
    https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Finances

Ryan: don't forget, we do have some fines and stuff. that will be
  brought up at the end of the meeting

Fundraising Update

How's it all going

nope.

Consensus

Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.

Ryan: Breocratic nightmares of noisebridge,

(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the Consensus Items History page.)

Ryan: three consensus items.

Tim: Steve you're in the back?

*confirmation from steve*

Ryan: I need someone else to take notes during this section.

Tim: Jay are you note taking?

Jay: ye

Ryan: current 3 consensus items. (1) allow the treasurer and the board
  to accept a new lease when it is given to us by the landlord, and is
  deamed favorable terms for the extension of noisebridge's
  lease. um. yeah. um. so. since there are two members here, we can
  probably actually consenus this. Let me post in the notes what our
  current goals are.

Ryan: um, so, Ruth removed these consensus items, but I don't think we
  should do these things without consensus as these are different than
  extending a lease and stuff, so, um. I'm going to um. hmm. ok, wait just
  a sec. umm. ok, ummm. yeah, so.


current_time: 21:18

Ryan: just going to post these here -----

Item One: Approve New Lease When it is given to us

Item

09/10/19

Ryan Sternlicht

Approve New Lease When it is given to us:

    Noisebridge is currently negotiating a new lease, and
    it needs to be approved very soon,

    here is some info on the current discussion

    Tyler: One priority I have is removing the elevator
      clause from the lease. As it stands, NoiseBridge
      is responsible for 100% of the first $10,000 of
      repairs, and then 50% thereafter. There is no upper
      limit to the potential cost here. We are currently being
      billed $10,000 for the last elevator repair.

    Tyler: For the month of September, Brian has told us
      to continue to pay $6,500

    Tyler: My original request was a 5 year lease, same
      rate, without the elevator clause) but Brian was
      not interested.

    Tyler: His response was $7,250 to remove the elevator
      fee. I countered at $7.0k

    Tyler: He replied with $7,000 for a 2 year lease
      without the elevator cost.

    Tyler: I asked for more then 2 years. Brian responded
      with 3 years at $7,100 / month.

    Tyler: As it stands, I have countered with $7,000 for
      2 years with a 2 year option at $7,250.

    Per Jarrod:  it is really hard to justify large future
      costs (Zoning fee, sprinklers / second egress, etc.)
      if we are potentially limited by a short lease. I'd
      like to push for a longer term lease, but it would
      likely come with additional rent hikes.

    Looking for any and all opinions.

    I think we should decide whether to approve the board and
    treasurer to finalize and approve a new lease as soon as
    we get terms that are favorable to the general noisebridge community

Discussion

Ryan: most of the board thinks thes can be small-c, but we should at
  lease have these written up. it sounds like most everyone agrees that
  it's a good idea to let treasurer and board. current options is.... (SEE
  ABOVE).

Ryan: there are two members present. do both of us agree that we should
  allow the treasurer.... actually, first, lets take comments.

Tim: do we have an alternavite to renewing the lease?

Ryan: if you don't want to exist raise your hand

  *laughter*

tim: if anyone has a magical space in SF....

tim: yo, steve are you here? are you good with giving tyler and the
  board to create a new lease?

steve: yeah, sure.

m: if ruth says it's good, then it's good.

tim: can't find any fault with that logic.

ryan: both members present consent that both the board and the treasurer
  can negotiate and finalize the lease terms without having to go through
  a full consensus.

Item Two: New Laser Tube

Item

09/10/19

Ryan Sternlicht

Purchace new Laser Tube

    Our laser cutter is broken, we need a new tube

    a new tube costs around 1400 dollars, should we spend
    noisebridge money to buy a new tube

    we use the machine a lot, and we should discuss if
    we want the 100 watt or 150 watt tube replacment

    I think we should decide and then approve the
    purchase of a new laser tube.

Discussion

ryan: ok, the second consensus item is. to buy a new laser head for our
  laser cutter. looks like ruth, tyler, and a couple other laser cutter
  have already figured out what's best to buy. we can probably get a bit
  cheaper. maybe a 150w laser tube. people who are laser trained will no
  have to go through new laser training.

tim: that's debatable though.

ryan: might go through and prove that current laser trainer know what
  they're doing, sounds like.... the only reason it shouldn't go through
  small-c. sounds like every single person that I talked to wants a
  slightly more powerful laser. cut thicker materials more consistently so
  we don't have to run the laser over-and-over again. any comments?

franK: question. with higher power, metals.

ryan: because we have a Co2 mirror based laser, we can't directly laser
  reflective materials such as metal, but, if we get it certified, we can
  etch certain coatings, but not currently in our certified testing
  list. we recommend folks use a professional fiber laser system which is
  much safer. no chance that it will destroy our laser cutter, and will
  work a lot better.

frank: one of the alternatives: vinyl on laser cutter?

ryan: do not cut vynl. toxic. inhailing clorine is worst then drowning.

tim: don't fuck with.... we consensed with putting an RFID on the laser
cutter.

Ryan: always had that plan.

tim: expensive things

  *chats about RFID on expensive things*
  *loud motorcycle outside drives by*
  *chats about how RFID access on things is small-c*

ryan: bringing this up in big-c consensues is useful. this system might
  be legally liable if someone gets injured. whoever purchases it could be
  liable. we don't want that.

tim: that may be true, but we should ask a lawyer.

ryan: in general, everyone I've talked to. 130 - 150w laser would be an
  improvement to the space and generally be an execllent thing. also, it
  would need to de taken care of quite a bit. more powerful, cut through
  thicker things faster. current air/exhuast system couldn't handle a
  laser cutter a quarter size of ours, but, after talking with ruth and
  tyler like, tyler I'm pretty sure is ready to spend the funds. sounds
  like, ruth, who has been in contact with a number of laser distributers
  knows quite well what to get, and I trust her decision in getting a new
  laser as she is someone who has consistently taken care of the laser,
  and is generally an excellent laser trainer, and....

tim: YO. HAlf this shit is Ruth maintained.

frank: something got bumped and something fell into  (??)

ryan: failure mode: lots of little things happend at once. our laser did
  not have enough neon/argon/whatever in the chamber. that laser cutter
  which is a 100w tube is the equivelent to a 100mW tube. can't burn
  through paper right now. now all that useful.

ein: one of the things I want to do is use the laser cutter.

ryan: um, so, we do actually. if you donate to noisebridge, you can
  select, or write in that you want to donate towards the laser fund, once
  it's working again, we have consistent laser training every couple of
  weeks. once trained, you can use the laser cutter. free to use, but
  really really would like donations. costs $5/hr of electricity to
  use. takes a lot of time and energy to maintain it.

tim: small-c. $10/hr to compensate for folks that don't donate?

ryan: already did consensed on this.

??: have money for this?

ryan: we already have the money to do this.

tim: excellent to donate anyway

  *discussion about laser fundraising when the laser was first
  introduced into the space*

  *chat about replacing mirrors & other components over time*

ryan: don't have funds set aside to hire tech to fix issues. small-c ok
  for this. ruth estimates that laser is used ~3hrs a day. about 3,000
  hours put into it. had we maintained it better, maybe a bit more
  life. new laser tubes should last a lot longer, so, um. yeah. any other
  comments?

frank: sign business. in 1996 to 2001. the things referred to neon
  lighting were opposed at the time. fill neon tubes?

ryan: cann't be filled if that's your question. that 's a questino that
  we had. tech looked at our tube, and not the type that can be
  refilled. new one CAN be refilled. ok, yeah, this meeting is going on
  quite a bit. any other questions..

current_time: 21:36

ryan: other member like to block us buying another laser tube?

steve: nope. all good.

ryan: sounds like. anyone like to proxy block this? um, going to check
  on slack, um.... does not look like anything has been mentioned in
  general or finance. um.

ryan: ok, looks like we don't have any proxy blocks currently. doubt
  there will be a block as most think this is small-c. looks like, or
  wait, someone have a comment. OK COOL. we have consensed on a new laser
  tube. now it's at least documented in the system (notes??)

Item Three: Give treasurer (Tyler) and Ruth access to NB bank account & allow board to grant access in necessary circumstances

Pre-Item discussion

RYAN: 3rd consensus item is from last week. wait just a sec. going
  through the other meetings. um. uhh, yeah, wait just a sec. this next
  one is pretty important, um. it was proposed by ruth last week, and
  um. uhhhh.

marco: for the bank account?

ryan: yeah. um. we should do this. uhhhh.

Item

2019-09-17

Ruth

Give treasurer (Tyler) and Ruth access to NB bank account & allow board
to grant access in necessary circumstances

> Hi people at Noisebridge meeting, I'm Ruth, you may have seen me in
> the sewing area with or without baby Lee. I'm also on the Noisebridge
> board and have coordinated lease stuff with the landlord in the
> past. Right now we're running low on people who regularly show up to
> Noisebridge and also are signors on the Wells Fargo bank account. I
> think it would be best if Tyler as treasurer were a signor (he only
> has read access right now), and also myself as backup. The recent
> events that have prompted this are that we haven't paid the August and
> September rent due to the auto pay turning off as our lease ends, and
> no one having either time or access to deal with it. Luckily John has
> time to go to the bank to pay the rent tomorrow in person (from a new
> York bank branch), so we'll be ok this time, but for the future it
> would be good for Tyler and I to be signors to make it easier. As part
> of the process for adding people to the bank account, we need to have
> a record of meeting notes saying that we should be added. (The
> remaining process is for John and Nicole to sign something as
> administrators, and we also need two signors to go to the bank with
> Tyler and I in person before we can be added.)Please discuss at the
> meeting whether or not you think it should be a good idea for Tyler
> and separately me to be added to the bank account, and record it in
> the meeting notes.Sorry I couldn't make it to the meeting tonight.
>
> Ruth

Discussion

current_time: 21:39

Ryan: posting it in the meeting notes here:

> Ryan: Is this current consensus item in
>    the wiki yet? (NB bank account).
>
> Ryan: I do agree that this is very critical
>    to make sure that donations are properly being
>    handled and being put into hte account on a
>    regular basis. A lot of people have mentioned
>    that we really should have a more regular deposit
>    of cash donations as well as more people who
>    can be, I can't remember the term.... emergency
>    monetary issues, e.g. treasurer gets hurt, or,
>    all of a sudden the financial market crashes, and
>    we have to start trading, like, Mate.
>
>    *laughs*
>
> Ryan: ok. so let's discuss this a little bit. so
>   that it may be, could be brought up in more detail at
>   the next meeting. do people think,
>   currently... currently we have two maybe
>   three people that can actually access our
>   bank account. like, we have a large number of
>   people that can access our financial records,
>   like our finaial records, as well as our
>   fundraising and monetary systems
>   (i.e. stripe, paypal, bitcoin). very few have
>   access to our bank account, which is used for
>   reimbursement for people who donate stuff,
>   and use our general fund for reimbursement,
>   as well as when we have events and when we
>   want to pay guests, or big purchases like a
>   new laser tube, elevator stuff, or stuff like
>   that. it's critical that people have access
>   to this... trusted people... what do people
>   think?
>
> Marco: Read ruth's message on this?
>
> > Hi people at Noisebridge meeting, I'm Ruth,
> > you may have seen me in the sewing area
> > with or without baby Lee. I'm also on the
> > Noisebridge board and have coordinated
> > lease stuff with the landlord in the
> > past. Right now we're running low on people
> > who regularly show up to Noisebridge and
> > also are signors on the Wells Fargo bank
> > account. I think it would be best if Tyler
> > as treasurer were a signor (he only has
> > read access right now), and also myself as
> > backup. The recent events that have
> > prompted this are that we haven't paid the
> > August and September rent due to the auto
> > pay turning off as our lease ends, and no
> > one having either time or access to deal
> > with it. Luckily John has time to go to the
> > bank to pay the rent tomorrow in person
> > (from a new York bank branch), so we'll be
> > ok this time, but for the future it would
> > be good for Tyler and I to be signors to
> > make it easier. As part of the process for
> > adding people to the bank account, we need
> > to have a record of meeting notes saying
> > that we should be added. (The remaining
> > process is for John and Nicole to sign
> > something as administrators, and we also
> > need two signors to go to the bank with
> > Tyler and I in person before we can be
> > added.)Please discuss at the meeting
> > whether or not you think it should be a
> > good idea for Tyler and separately me to be
> > added to the bank account, and record it in
> > the meeting notes.Sorry I couldn't make it
> > to the meeting tonight.Ruth

> Ryan: I'll read it out loud
>
>   *reads message above *
>
> Ryan: I think that's a good idea. it's
>   critical that we have this as people can
>   see now. and also, for people who might not
>   know ruthr or tyler, ruth has been coming
>   to noisebridge for a long time. very
>   instrumental in taking care of certain
>   things. sewing area, laser cutter, runs
>   numerious events. ran our social media for
>   awhile. has been very helpful. on our
>   board. um, and she is also a member, um,
>   and then Tyler. Tyler is somewhat new to
>   the space. only about a year, but his
>   financial assistance with our historial
>   financial records has been one of the key
>   things that has allowed us to reinvigorate
>   our moneypary system so it's all up to
>   things that allows us to apply for grants
>   that require a multi-year history of our
>   background. Made treasurer two months
>   ago. has been working extremely hard on
>   keeping the noisebridge finances in
>   order. um. so. having our treasurer not
>   have access to our money is kind of bad
>
> *laughter*
>
> Victor: what do you mean?
>
> Ryan: He can look at the money in the box,
>   but can't spend it. Anyone else want to
>   comment?

> Ryan: I think that's good for this
>   topic. So. That will. That's in the meeting
>   notes. Next meeting we can consensus on
>   that, hopefully, so that we can pay our
>   rent and stuff like that. um. so, yeah. I"m
>   pretty sure that's everything for the
>   regular stuff.

Ryan: *describes the previous weeks discussion above*

Ryan: need funds to renew our lease. right now we have to. our treasurer
  has to proxy our funds through the former treasurer.

Tim: changing hands is nerve racking. it's your baby and you're giving
  it to someone else.

Ryan: any questions? proposed next week. needs ot be done really really
  sone. we think maybe three people have access to our bank account. only
  one is semi-active with noisebridge. two of the others are
  international. so. yeah. one I think is in NY, and one I have no
  idea. OK yes, they're not on the moon right now. does anyone have any
  qualms with giving Ruth and Tyler and possibly one other person they
  deem fit access to the bank account?

marco: *asks clarifying question*

Ryan: tyler is our current treasurer. excellent beyond anything I can
  say. he has been excellent at helping noisebridge do a lot of financial
  upkeep and generally has allowed us to more more accurate than any other
  time with financials. ruth has been a board member, a, like, a person
  who generally oversees a lot of stuff in the space. an event host, a
  mentor, a teacher, a guide, she generally is one of the most dedicate
  people at nosiebrideg for quite a long time, and is generally very
  knowledgeable in taking care of noisebridge, and um, all that stuff,
  um. yeah, so. anyone, um, have any conserns they want to bring up?

ryan: um... does the other member present want to block giving Tyler,
  Ruth, and if necessary, other people access to the, um, bank account on
  a, like, um, like, general consensus basis, or, right now Ruth and Tyler
  are the only two we neeed to consensus on. extra: allow tyler and ruth
  to give other people access.

steve: fine.

ryan: sounds like other member present is fine with giving tyler and
  ruth access. and allowing the board to give access on necessary
  circumstance. and, um, I don't block this eather. um. OK. that is
  consensused.

tim: this is super fucking rare. we run on anarchy.

ryan: yeah. we haven't consensused this many in awhile.

tim: it would be a hat-trick if we could get a member tonight.

  *discussion about Members*
  *Ryan was the last full member jokes*

ryan: now that we're done with those, there are no consensues items for
  next week. OK SO. discussion. also, um, actually. I think at the
  beginning we didn't explain what consensues is. yeah. holy crap.

ryan: consensus is bureaucratic nightmares to keep it short.

ryan: you pretty much saw what is it. you get to block what consensus
  items are passing. blocks signify that you think nb would die if it
  passes. rarely comes up.

Add any new items for consensus to the Current Consensus Items page.

1. New Lease

Tyler (remote): Hi noisebridge. Just got the updated lease from the
  landlord. Basics are:

  ```
  Term 10/01/19 - 9/30/2023 (4 years)
  Rent: Y1: 7,000, Y2: $7,000, Y3: $7,200, Y4: $7,200
  Elevator Clause removed
  Responsibility to maintain stairwell / landing / exterior removed
  ```

  The line from the lease that is in question by our Attorney:

  > Tenant will take responsibility of
  > improvements/maintenance related to
  > occupancy of the third floor. Tenant also
  > has permission to do general building
  > improvements/maintence including securing
  > the gate, repainting the stairway and
  > entry, cleaning any grafitti on the
  > exterior of the building, and typical pest
  > control."

  Mostly the first sentence:

  > Tenant will take responsibility of
  > improvements/maintenance related to
  > occupancy of the third floor."


  There are some meaningful costs related to
  bringing the sprinklers up to code (and
  potentially opening a second egress). Ideally
  we want the landlord to pay for this. We'll
  see if we can come to an agreement on that.

Discussion


  *cheers*

  *question asked on statement on the fridge*

    - Tyler (remote): wait the white one, or the one that caught on fire?
    - Jaguar: sec, checking on it
    - ??: the white one with cold mate in it

Ryan: if you're on discuss, please message
  tyler if you thinkg this is good. um,
  because, we do want peopl edo to small-c
  consensus on if they think this is
  good. don't think we can get this any
  lower. having a lease is very important. um,
  legally speaking it's kind of what keeps us
  here.

??: um, are we in danger

Discussion

Discussion Item 1: space(pirate) problems and hackathon improvment ideas

marco: sewing machines are broken.

ryan: rearrange wires on the ceiling. can't clamp or attach anything on
  the sprinklers.

Marco: reschedule hackathon to first week of November, and add a weekly
  group

Discussion Item 2: Easy way to tag all broken things? So that we can work on repairing things


Ait: sign outside noisebridge? <-- maybe we can be creative with
  the sign (need more discussion)

fan sign: holographic fan sign?

End of Meeting

Meeting adjourned.