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--[[User:Mcint|Mcint]] ([[User_talk:Mcint|talk]]) [[mw:help:sign|<code><nowiki>--~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki></code>]] 17:14, 21 January 2025 (PST)
--[[User:Mcint|Mcint]] ([[User_talk:Mcint|talk]]) [[mw:help:sign|<code><nowiki>--~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki></code>]] 17:14, 21 January 2025 (PST)
== On [[mwe:WikiMarkdown]] ==
As with all extensions, check [[Special:Version]] to see what's currently installed.
Check out https://pandoc.org/try/ using <code>markdown_github</code> to <code>mediawiki</code> or vice versa ''(deep linking to conversion-pair is not supported ... could be easy and worthwhile to host our own with that feature)'', to write in markdown while creating mediawiki pages.
* I would be up for embedding the pandoc link into the edit page.
I'm not ready to unleash, different, less feature-ful, incompatible markdown on the wiki. Implied maintenance explosion, difficulty of editing.
* Since the motivating concern, from [[User:LX]], was just wiki table formatting, I still lean strongly to, make a conversion link available, but don't restructure the whole wiki, make it harder for people to learn the old syntax
* The visual editor has made it easier for some many more to edit the wiki.
I think the real current limitation is the performance concern. Hopefully cloudflare would give us better levers here, but really we're getting resource exhaustion from handling 3/10/30 requests per second. Not L3 DDOS, L7 application layer frailty, morally it's nearly a self-ddos. We would like to be able to handle much more traffic. [[User:Nthmost]] asked about a dev site, a very good idea, very doable.
I think we have mediawiki internal caching enabled. We could also do more explicit static site intermediary generation. Also cut continue to tamp down on still other internal mediawiki Special pages and History or diff requests, without an account or similar.
--[[User:Mcint|Mcint]] ([[User_talk:Mcint|talk]]) [[mw:help:sign|<code><nowiki>--~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki></code>]] 16:14, 9 December 2025 (PST)

Revision as of 17:14, 9 December 2025

mwe:Create_Page do we want it?

I enabled mwe:InputBox today. Trying it out on Meetups/Infra#Create and Meetups/Infra/Template#Create for convenient use.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Create_Page Mwillson? LX? --Mcint (talk) --~~~~ 17:14, 21 January 2025 (PST)

On mwe:WikiMarkdown

As with all extensions, check Special:Version to see what's currently installed.

Check out https://pandoc.org/try/ using markdown_github to mediawiki or vice versa (deep linking to conversion-pair is not supported ... could be easy and worthwhile to host our own with that feature), to write in markdown while creating mediawiki pages.

  • I would be up for embedding the pandoc link into the edit page.

I'm not ready to unleash, different, less feature-ful, incompatible markdown on the wiki. Implied maintenance explosion, difficulty of editing.

  • Since the motivating concern, from User:LX, was just wiki table formatting, I still lean strongly to, make a conversion link available, but don't restructure the whole wiki, make it harder for people to learn the old syntax
  • The visual editor has made it easier for some many more to edit the wiki.

I think the real current limitation is the performance concern. Hopefully cloudflare would give us better levers here, but really we're getting resource exhaustion from handling 3/10/30 requests per second. Not L3 DDOS, L7 application layer frailty, morally it's nearly a self-ddos. We would like to be able to handle much more traffic. User:Nthmost asked about a dev site, a very good idea, very doable.

I think we have mediawiki internal caching enabled. We could also do more explicit static site intermediary generation. Also cut continue to tamp down on still other internal mediawiki Special pages and History or diff requests, without an account or similar. --Mcint (talk) --~~~~ 16:14, 9 December 2025 (PST)